dear_mun | On applications and...such.

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You are aware that most people consider me an absolute tit, and those are the people that actually like me, right?

I can't believe you think shoving me into some new places is actually going to do a lick of good.

And you know what? I'd actually like to get LAID at some point! The soldiers at Ostagar laughed at me! Tried to get me into bed with a pretty elf!

I DON'T want a pity shag, Makers breath.

I'm going to die a sodding virgin.

Maker I hate you.

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Yeah because I've seen just how nice you are to Fenris. *Carver scowls at him*

You're only nice to the pathetic..or anyone with Magic. Which makes you a sodding hypocrite...

And I feel perfectly fine with being not nice to people who just...look on the surface...who don't even bother to take the time to get to know WHY someone is the way they are.

You? You're hypocritical and shallow. ~~and hot but we're not talking about my apparent inability to be attracted to people who are good for me.~~

Edited 2013-01-19 08:33 (UTC)

Yes, and who started the fighting between me and Fenris? I'll give you a hint, it was the one who started treating the other like a thing by calling them 'mage' and 'abomination.' Two mages in one nation far away abused him and suddenly all mages are evil and wrong? That's looking on the surface, when you judge a whole group by the actions of a few.

[Anders snorts.]

I treat people generally the same except when they're participating in the oppression of others, so sorry, that actually doesn't make me a hypocrite. It makes the one who says he stands against slavery and oppression while being entirely for the enslavement of another group a hypocrite. And I really fail to see how I'm shallow.

Oh get over yourself! He has no memory of anything but Mages hurting and abusing him! You think it was just Danarius and whatever her name was? He mentioned dinner parties and entertainment! Even if they never touched him, you don't think he saw everything going on around him? He's smart.

*Carver scowls at him*

And Fenris doesn't want you precious Mages enslaved, he wants them monitored, to make sure...sodding hell I don't want to have this debate with you. You lack flexibility....

Mages in the Tevinter Imperium are far different from mages elsewhere, and I do lack flexibility because I have been locked up, used for work, taught the basics of what I needed to do to serve my captors, and had no expectations of freedom because to flee for it was death.

[Anders shakes his head.]

Talk to me about lacking flexibility when you've dealt with oppression.

You don't think my father told us things! You don't think we knew? You think living as a family of apostates was easy? That because they weren't in the tower they had it easy? Bethany would wake up screaming! *he clenches his hands* my twin begged me to kill her if she gave in...I know the whole, full...sodding picture...

*he looks away from Anders* I'm not saying its a good or even perfect system. It's not...but...there has to be something...

I think you never had to live with the direct threat of imprisonment, of captivity, over your head. I think you don't know, because it wasn't against you.

Let mages go after they've been Harrowed. They've shown they can resist demons. Just let them be, let them live, and then that's something, and freedom. But keeping them like cattle until you want to use them for your fight, or to heal your people, or to make runes, or potions... that's slavery. And that's what Fenris wants for mages.

It wasn't against me, but Bethy was a part of me...she was my twin! You can't understand that bond! *Carver swallows*

Fenris...Fenris is traumatized...like an abused cat. You don't treat an animal as poorly as you treat him...

The Harrowing is no guarantee, but it is something....

Let's revisit who started the poor treatment. It wasn't me.

And further, there's no guarantee that a man with a sword won't run through the streets killing people. You've been with the party. You've seen that Templars, anyone, can be possessed. Just because mages are easier doesn't mean we all have to be watched. We're still people and we deserve freedom.

Can you really blame him? Really?

Look I support Mages...I do...really. I just...I don't want things to bugger up...

Yes, I can. Because people have no choice in being mages. It's like hating someone because they're an Elf, or because they're Fereldan. It's ridiculous, pointless, useless hatred, and it serves no one. I do blame anyone who hates like that.

And your attitude isn't that of mage support. It's that of fear, just like the Chantry has taught the blind masses to fear. Did your father ever hurt anyone? Your sister? Did they go abomination and destroy villages? No. They're not exceptions, either. They're the norm. ...Just not in Kirkwall.

You've got to be kidding me! What's WRONG with you! *Carver throws his hands up. Anders may be pretty but damn he's frustrating*

And I am not afraid! I'm cautious, because it was HARD on my father, my sister and my brother. And mother...and me...

Harder on them. Far harder. And you can't understand, because you're no mage.

[Someone should have his own tumblr crusade. If he knew what tumblr was.]

Of course your life was difficult; life is. But you were never hated because of how you were born, feared for it, never dealt with the constant threat of being caught and hauled away, potentially to be killed or worse.

No it was my job to keep them safe, to stay low, or distract as needs must. * Carver scowls at him* I'm no Mage. You're right. I was the lone blade...not special enough to be with the others... My life wasnt as hard, I know that...but don't you dare just dismiss me you pompous arse...

*carver would mock him through the ask box, not anonymously...Carvers bratty but he's not one to hide*

Look just cause you're a Mage...and pretty...doesn't mean you can dismiss everyone else's opinion!

I'm not dismissing you. I'm saying that you don't understand this, though, being the target.

[There's a short pause and his voice gets less stern and faintly amused.]

Pretty? That's one I haven't heard in a few years. I don't dismiss things because I'm... pretty, though. I dismiss opinions that don't have the backing of experience. You do not know what it is like to be the hunted target.

[And then the relenting tone is gone.]

You simply do not. It is slavery, being in the Circle. It is oppression, it is the weight of the hatred and fear of nations, of being treated like you're less than a person because in the eyes of the Templars and so many others you are. From birth.

I'll not dismiss your opinion on the topic of being the youngest, or overshadowed, or how tiring it must be to lug around a giant sword. But on the oppression of mages, while you've been there for some, you were not yourself oppressed.

*Carver stares at him*

You...look...I know it was terrifying for my family...I know that...but I was hunted...I had the fear...and yes I know I'm not a Mage...but to lose Bethy...whatever you clearly just think that I couldn't feel anything when my family had to run and hide...

...and I don't think you're pretty.

I'm not saying you didn't feel anything. I'm saying that you were not their target, and the threat to you was not captivity, death or, worse, Tranquility. You would have been whipped and let go. You do not get to understand what being a mage is like when you are not a mage. You do not get to tell me that your fear and suffering was equal to that of a mage. It wasn't. You're not a mage. You feel. You had to deal with difficulties. But you did not have to deal with as horrible a prospective future as apostates have.

And I used your word. Not the 'rugged' that I've gotten recently from elsewhere.

It doesn't make you the be all and end all of all suffering...but you're right. I'm not a Mage. I don't know what that means or what you've gone through...

*he looks away* I didn't say pretty....but...who called you rugged?

There. There we go. That's what I've been aiming for. Congratulations, you've reached a little bit more understanding.

[Anders raises an eyebrow.]

If I'm not pretty I don't see why that matters.

*Carver bristles, prickling*

Fine! Don't do me any favours.

...I thought I was doing you a favor by not saying, actually, but fine. Hawke. The other one.

...Right.

*Oh he's a little upset now but he covers it with a scowl.* Sounds like him.

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