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[science_is_fun]

Hope van Dyne, huh? Or is it Hope Pym? Either way, it's good to see something positive coming out of this, even if the idea of Jan and I having kids is still somewhat strange to consider. It will certainly be interesting to see how this movie about Scott turns out - I know you're irritated by my role in this, but I'd prefer being a mentor over getting directly involved anyway. Hopefully, Scott can deal with this Yellowjacket person quickly - putting the Pym Particles in the wrong hands would be dangerous.

I'm concerned about the lack of any news on Jan's role in this, but other than that, it seems to be shaping up fairly well.

As for Ultron? Well, it's clear that Tony's personality slipped in there somewhere; I can't exactly see the Ultron that I built quoting lyrics from Pinocchio. Beyond that, it sounds like it's more or less the sort of carnage that I expected from that machine. I'm looking forward to seeing the new additions to that version of the Avengers, though. [He hasn't met Vision yet at the point that he's from, but it's a relief to know something good comes out of Ultron. As for Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch, he wishes that they had joined the Avengers in his universe - in his eyes, it would show that the team valued the idea of rehabilitation.]

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[irredeemed_ant]

I figure you and Jan should have probably ended up together, Pymie Boy. My Pym is... well, lonely, even if he's had the hot catgirl and the hot robotgirl since.

Kinda wish I'd show up though, I could totally rock in that Ant Man suit too.

[science_is_fun]

Hopefully our situation over there improves with the movie - it worked for Tony, by my understanding.

Well, I suppose there's always the possibility. Maybe if this one gets a sequel, or maybe you'll appear in that show focusing on Agent Coulson. I'm sure you'll get your chance at some point! [He's certainly optimistic, or at least trying to be.]

[irredeemed_ant]

Well if you got to be with Jan it seems like it's going well, even if it was a while ago.

Exactly, I was an agent of SHIELD before I became Ant Man so it would make total sense. Thanks for your support, dude, you're certainly easier to talk to than my Hank Pym can be at times.

[science_is_fun]

I certainly hope so - my mundane has his concerns about the issue, but hopefully they don't come to pass.

My guess is it's because I got out of the super-hero business early. I can't speak for your universe's Pym, but I found it fairly draining by the end of it, and I was only involved for a few months.

[likes_metal]

...is every Tony ever going to do things that make me regret being a Stark? I - I - this is not fair. You get to have an adorable baby and be a science!dad who can build all the best toys ever. I get to shave religiously and hope that somehow keeps me from making things that murder and maim while making quips.

Also, Hope? Really? Every Hope my mun knows is Goth, because that's just what happens when you're that on the nose. [Of course, it's canon that Tony, when truth serumed and idly asked by Pepper, said his top baby name choices were Maria, Marie, Mari, Mark, Martin, and Martino, so he's not a fountain of inspiration, but.] I swear this Ultron thing is going to make me pick up drinking. I'm starting to see the appeal.

[science_is_fun]

It's a bit early to start proclaiming me "Father of the Year" - I've got no idea if we're estranged or something along those lines. Besides, with an infinite amount of universes, there's bound to be a large number of them with a Tony Stark that you can be proud of. The Tony from my universe does a lot of great things, and he definitely means well, even if he had difficulty showing it for a while. [Can't exactly vouch for his leadership skills, but then again, the two of them had trouble getting along initially.]

Can't say my mundane or I know anyone named Hope, but I'd think it would be a fitting name for her - given the rough patches Jan and I go through, a little hope is probably just what we need.

[likes_metal]

Okay, one - you're going to be a great dad. You're a nerd. Nerds overprepare and therefore know how to handle weirdness when it arises, plus you know enough about science to buy all the safest child playthings. And I really feel sorry for whoever bullies the child of two superheroes - also I'm hoping they'll show us the PTA meetings, because that'd be a blast.

Meaning well isn't a lot of comfort when I keep seeing other versions of myself nearly end the world or drink like a fish or both. Anyway, if you're that much of a sap over names you're probably going to be the pushover parent, which my mun thinks is cute. This might just win you more fangirls, Hank.

[science_is_fun]

...I'm glad you've got so much faith in me. I mean, the other universe's me. Though I would like to start a family at some point; it's just -- nevermind. I just hope that she'll have the wonderful childhood that you think she will.

Look, Tony, where I'm from, you put a stop to a time traveller with tech that's a thousand years more advanced than ours, pretty much single-handedly. You made a suit of armor out of a metal that doesn't even exist on Earth, and used it to fend off a being so powerful that the ancient Norse called him a god. Sure, you have your problems in my universe - particularly in regards to communication - but when it comes to the Avengers, who doesn't? ...Well, aside from Cap. And Jan. ...My point is, I think you're being too hard on yourself. Or yourselves. [And when Hank Pym's saying this, it might be a sign.]

[likes_metal]

It'll be an adorable childhood full of her inventing things and Jan dressing her in perfect outfits. And you'll be the dad who will think she can do no wrong. I can see it. Besides, there's a ton of podcasts and books on being a dad. If you're worried, study up on it. Pregnancy is your nine month studying and buying things period; treat it like really important science. And speaking from a flashback to my own childhood they gave us, never, ever let your kid use the Bunsen burner. I don't remember much except being banned from the kitchen forever, but apparently the fire department got involved, so - yeah. Beware the genius kid and boredom.

[Tony groans. Yeah, no. His Hank is barely twenty and is awesome, they haven't met Jan yet but Tony's heard nothing but good things about her, Cap is still missing but they were going to go get him shortly (kudos to the writers for sticking Cap in the worst part of the Arctic ever) and Thor convinced Loki to be a good guy. The superhero bar is set really, really high where he comes from and Tony is aware he's been desperately playing catch up to get himself on the same level as everyone else. He's kind of convinced they only agreed to the Avengers idea because SHIELD was so inefficient.]

In my world I became best friends with my worst enemy's civilian identity after he killed my dad, he nearly kills me and my best friends twice, he got within a hair's breadth of rewriting the universe as we know it, and I build a shitty arc reactor that needs recharging because I am not nearly as smart as the other me's. Then Stane's daughter gets so desperate to get attention from her dad she decides to be a super villain and laughs when I take her to jail because he'll finally talk to her, since my superheroism has made me his obsession and I have wrecked her life that much. Oh, and the tech she used to pull that was mine. And it nearly killed her via poisoning because I thought I was smart enough to work with illegal metals. After that I unleashed a sentient hive-mind nanite cluster that grew out of my control and tried to murder all my enemies. I had the tech to create another super villain but after he repented and turned awesome I didn't have the tech to keep what was in him from killing him.

And that was my first seven months of being a superhero.

Did it ever occur to you maybe you guys keep me on the Avengers because all I touch turns into a cyperpunk horrorshow? I will never get why you have anti-fans when my litany of fuck ups is this long, and this is the happy, G-rated universe I'm supposed to be coming from.

...maybe I should start drinking.

[winsome_wasp]

Believe me, you're not the only one worried by my lack of a role here.

[science_is_fun]

Jan! Well, I mean, you're not the Jan that I know, but you're still -- [He clears his throat - best to start over.] I'm just glad you're here.

Hopefully, it's just due to the difficulties with the movie's production - it sounds like it's been fairly troubled, which would probably mean that they'd have a difficult time with casting, but I'm sure you'll be in it in some form.

[winsome_wasp]

Hello to you too, handsome.

Well, at this rate, I'm just hoping for even a photograph of myself. Something. Though I'm sad that I won't be fighting with the Avengers here.

All of that history, and nothing to show for it.

Then again, maybe I'll have started a fashion empire there.

A girl can dream, right?

[science_is_fun]

[Hank's flustered by that first comment - even though he's heard that other versions of him and Jan get married, his own relationship with Jan is one where everyone but them can see that they have feelings for each other. Jan loves him, but she figures that he only cares about science, and given that Hank only confesses his feelings when it's an end of the world scenario and one of them is almost unconscious, he doesn't feel great about his chances either. So getting called handsome by Jan (especially another universe's Jan) is a new experience for him.]

I, um, don't know if handsome is, well... Do you really think--? [When there's an opportunity for a subject change, he leaps on it.]

I'm sure you'll make some kind of appearance. You're a founding Avenger! People got mad when they changed the Mandarin, but that would be nothing compared to what would happen if they didn't acknowledge you.

Maybe it's for the best. I think it would be nice to know that a version of us is out there living normal lives, raising a family, without having to worry about how the world's going to end this week. Plus, we'll still have the powers, so we would have made a difference in the world. [Though he disliked the violence that came with super-heroics, he had to admit that they had done great things with their powers, and improved the world even if it was just a few people at a time.]

[winsome_wasp]

[Jan's amused. She's always liked flirting with Hank, seeing him get a little bit flustered when she buzzes into the lab and says something just off-the-cuff enough that he's surprised for a moment.]

I've never placed much weight on it, but let's be honest. You're no slouch in the look department, Hank.

I am a founding Avenger. But that world seems different, don't you think? A world where the Avengers are an initiative created by SHIELD? Fate didn't bring them together - people did. People like Nick Fury.

A darker Avengers calls for a darker heroine. Maybe that's why they went with Natasha.

[science_is_fun]

I am? ...Wait, so what did you see in me? ...I mean, the other me? Still getting used to seeing the alternate universe concept firsthand. [He's hoping there's some constants between universes, at least; the scientific part of his mind wants to check for similarities or differences between different versions of himself, while another part of him wants to have some hope that his universe's Jan might have similar interests.]

It certainly does. In my world, we formed the Avengers to get away from SHIELD's influence. Still, it does raise questions about why these universes are all so different - that one doesn't seem to have mutants, which isn't exactly a small change.

I'm sure they need you more than they know, Jan. If you're anything like the Jan I know, you're like the glue that helps keep the team together. You were the first person on the team that Hulk actually got along with, which was a pretty big accomplishment!

[winsome_wasp]

Sweetie, do you even have to ask? I mean, love is love, it happens. Sometimes, it's better not to question things.[Granted, the circumstances of Jan and her Hank meeting and falling for each other are probably a little different. Alternate universes and all that.] The alternate universe thing, that gets easier, trust me.

I can't imagine a world that doesn't have mutants. Though apparently some people can imagine a world sans mutants and a founding Avenger. Not that I'm bitter, but how on Earth are those Avengers going to get some style without their resident fashion designer around?

How...how are you and your Jan? [She wants to know that somewhere, at least, they have a happier future than the history that Jan shares with her Hank.] Are you...together?

[science_is_fun]

I suppose you're right. About both of those things, I mean.

[Hank chuckles at that.] I'm sure that universe's Cap would like having you around. He's changed his costume so many times; maybe you'd be able to find something that he could stick with.

I... um... it's complicated. Things were fine for a while - I don't know if she thought of me as anything more than the scientist who gave her superpowers, but we got along well enough. It's just that, when it became clear that the team didn't care about finding non-violent solutions to dealing with super-villains, I quit the Avengers, and I think she took that pretty hard. [That's an understatement.] I tried telling her how I feel before then, but I can never get the words out when we're both conscious.

And from what I've been told, my mundane isn't bringing me up-to-date because I'll go insane and despise everything that I stood for, which doesn't seem like it would help.

You familiar with Nostalgia Critic at all?

[soyoudonthaveto]

My mun's personally pissed at the fact that Iron Man is stealing one of your "iconic characteristics". He thinks that since you're no longer a founding Avenger, nor are you Ultron's creator, they're gonna wind up using your only other "iconic aspect".

Take a guess as to what that aspect is, and why he's basically said he's done with the MCU.

In my opinion, this movie looks fucking incredible, and I can't wait to see how Ultron takes on the Avengers!

Yep!

[science_is_fun]

Honestly, if two of the three things that I'm defined by are Ultron and that, I'm glad that they're trying something different with me. It's a shame I won't be involved with the Avengers, [Even though he quit, he still feels like they did a lot of good.] but as long as they don't replace those with something worse, I'd be fine with that version of me getting a fresh start.

I'm more interested in the Avengers themselves; my mundane is excited about the whole thing, but I would have preferred it if they faced off against Kang, or the Masters of Evil, or even MODOC. [Of course, he might be a tad biased.]

Re: Yep!

[soyoudonthaveto]

Same here. Interestingly, in spite of claiming to "quit" the MCU, he's got ideas on how to fix some issues in what would be a trilogy of Avengers/X-Men movies that would confirm the two continuities take place in the same universe.

Said ideas include making you into Ultron's creator, restoring you and Jan to youth, and making you two into the founders of the New Avengers.

[ooc: You wanna hear more, I can PM you some ideas.]