red_renegades: (do not give up hope)
Kankri Vantas (The Sufferer) ([personal profile] red_renegades) wrote in [community profile] dear_mun2012-09-24 12:04 pm

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I must admit, I was n9t the m9st t9lera6le wriggler. In fact, I was quite the handful f9r my m9ther. However, at my w9rst, I w9uld like t9 think that I was a less 9bnoxi9us child then my y9unger c9unterpart.

Alas, the a6ility t9 never st9p talking is a trait we 6oth share. I have t9 h9pe I am putting it t9 6etter use. 6eing silent has never 6een my str9ng suit, but when there is s9 much t9 say, and s9 much t9 change, h9w can I stay silent? N9thing w9uld 9e accomplished if I had sat idly by, watching 9ur planet descend int9 even further madness. N9t that I made a significant difference at all, 6ey9nd the creation 9f a fine tale t9 tell. It pains me t9 think I ac9mplished s9 little, 6ut I am n9t 6ey9nd admitting it is s9.

I fear that I have gained a negitive reputati9n 9f talking t99 much, 9r at least my wriggler c9unterpart has gained it f9r me. I am s9rry if this is the case. I will attempt t9 restrain myself, in the interest 9f keeping my audience. The idea 9f a peaceful planet, 9ne with9ut the violence and class warfare that exists n9w will have to be so appealing as t9 9verride my w9rdiness.

9h, and there I g9 again, rambling 9n. This mem9 might 9nce have had a purp9se, but it has slipped my mind. I supp9se I am simply missing my planet and my friends the way I remem6er them. And even perhaps, seeing my w9rds inspire h9pe and j9y in 9thers. Watching the struggles 9f these wriggles makes me miss my 9wn stuggle and w9nder if it will ever see fruitati9n. Even am9ng the wrigglers that are left, there is still descent and distrust. I pray that peace can be f9und with9ut vi9lence, yet, this is bec9ming increasingly unlikely. Watching 9n the sidelines has never appealed t9 me, and it is difficult f9r me t9 remain an 96server t9 all this. It pains me t9 see such s9rr9w in the hearts 9f 9nes s9 y9ung.

What I need, I think, is guidance. I feel l9st with9ut my w9rds, but I can acc9mplish n9thing, n9w.
scribes: (And so on but now I think I was wrong)

[personal profile] scribes 2012-09-24 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Dear I don't think you have anything to worry about. This other iteration of yours is much younger--or at least he died and s33med to remain at an age much younger than what we reached. In time I'm certain he would have learned to moderate himself. I think they all, my younger self as well, could do with some more maturity and growing up.

That, however, is besides the point. Even if you are verbose at times the difference is in what you say, and your words are always inspiring and wonderful to hear.
scribes: (Is it any wonder)

[personal profile] scribes 2012-09-24 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
You will always have my faith, that is something you never n33d fear losing.

And unfortunately you are right, it s33ms they may never have the chance to grow. They died young, and have b33n stuck in that stage of life for what s33ms like sw33ps upon sw33ps. It would certainly explain why they s33m to be so stuck in their ways.

As for your own sermons I think you are worrying too much. Thus far you have had no problems, no? As always the greatest precaution we n33d to exercise is where you preach, but you have captivated many with your words. You are doing wonderfully just as you are.
scribes: (It's hard to know where I stand)

[personal profile] scribes 2012-09-24 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Good!

That is our best hope, though there is the chance too that as these 'mundanes' adopt them as we have b33n and take them to other places they will have opportunities to grow there. So perhaps that is the best we can hope for them. It would certainly bring them to better places--even if only marginally so in some cases.

It would not hurt to be exercise caution and reconsider ways to alter your sermons to suit the n33ds of your own audience, certainly not. But do not let it stress you so. Psiioniic, Dolorosa, and I are all here to help you however you n33d.
seerofblood: (Default)

i am so sorry

[personal profile] seerofblood 2012-09-25 02:25 pm (UTC)(link)
First 9f all I w9uld like to start 6y saying h9w 9ffensive it is that y9u w9uld feel s9 inclined as t9 c9mment 9n an9ther that y9u y9urself have n9t pers9nally met, as even th9ugh y9u are what I w9uld have 6een y9u cann9t p9ssi6ly understand. N9w 6ef9re I g9 9n I feel I sh9uld ap9l9gize in advance f9r any p9ssi6le 9ffensive su6jects that may c9me up 6ecause unlike s9me9ne here I d9 n9t take pleasure in insulting 9thers with 6iased 9pini9ns that are quite frankly rude. I will extend this curtesy t9 y9u despite the fact that y9u 96vi9usly d9 n9t care t9 give the same 6ack. If at any time y9u feel I have cr9ssed a line 9f s9me s9rt please feel free t9 menti9n it and we can st9p and talk it 9ver like resp9nsi6le tr9lls. If necessary y9u may take a m9ment t9 speak with s9me9ne that w9uld help y9u calm y9urself sh9uld it get t9 that p9int, I d9n't mind waiting. Th9ugh this really may be m9re than I sh9uld give y9u c9nsidering the fact that y9u seem t9 have a 6latant disregard for my feelings 9n any matter and were rather rude and presumptu9us 6y claiming me t9 6e 96n9xi9us. Which I am deeply 9ffended 6y I sh9uld have y9u kn9w, as I have already stated th9ugh I feel it necessary to stress this 6ecause y9u d9n't seem t9 understand the imp9rtance 9f trigger warnings. Even if it's s9mething as simple as a min9r insult y9u sh9uld always 6e ready t9 warn th9se y9u're speaking with just t9 6e sure y9u d9n't upset them 9r cause any s9rt 9f em9ti9nal damage t9 them.

N9w 9n the su6ject 9f em9tional damage I'd like t9 6ring t9 light the fact that n9t 9nly did y9u affr9nt me with s9mething that c9uld have 6een a p9tential trigger had I p9ssessed a less than satisfact9ry self esteem level 6ut y9u als9 were careless en9ugh t9 n9t 9nly menti9n the p9tential death 9f y9ur planet 6ut t9 als9 use the term madness. D9 y9u kn9w h9w unc9mf9rta6le that term can make s9me pe9ple? When it c9mes t9 the sensitive su6ject 9f 9nes mentality 9r capacity y9u must always 6e careful n9t t9 tred int9 such danger9us assumpti9ns even as a wh9le. There c9uld 6e high6l99ds wh9 w9uld find 9ffense in that accusati9n and even l9w6l99ds with less than average intelligence c9uld 6e 9ffended 6y such careless w9rds. And 9n t9p 9f that t9 even g9 about menti9ning class with9ut giving any9ne a chance t9 prepare themselves f9r such distur6ing t9pics is just unaccepta6le. Y9u must always g9 a69ut such things with the utm9st care and sensitivity, especially c9nsidering the prejudices that exist in y9ur universe. What w9uld y9u d9 if y9u were making pe9ple unc9mforta6le with h9w y9u d9n't even seem t9 give a 6it 9f mind t9 the feelings 9f 9thers? Th9ugh c9nsidering y9u had a less than s9phist9cated up6ringing I can't 9utright 6lame y9u (#trigger warning f9r class insensitivity) as y9u seem t9 6e a pr9duct 9f y9ur w9rld. 6ut even in that case I w9uld expect y9u 9f all pe9ple t9 understand these su6jects and try t9 take them a little 6it m9re seri9usly.

N9w I can understand feeling upset if y9u're missing y9ur friends 6ut that is n9t an excuse t9 g9 thr9wing ar9und triggers like they're g9ing 9ut 9f style. It's quite frankly rude 9f y9u and there c9uld 6e a large num6er 9f pe9ple wh9 were upset 6y this mem9 9f y9urs 6ecause y9u didn't take the simple time 9ut 9f y9ur day t9 inf9rm them 9f p9tential triggers s9 they c9uld have 6een prepared when they saw them. Instead there's the p9ssi6ility that they read this 9ver, felt deeply 9ffended 9r distur6ed and had t9 st9p several times t9 get c9mf9rt fr9m a m9irail 9r simply a friend. And in that there is the chance that they may n9t have wanted t9 even 6other c9ntinuing t9 read 9ver what y9u have said 6ecause they didn't want t9 risk having t9 deal with that em9tional pain y9u c9uld have s9 th9ughtlessly 6r9ught up in them. Y9u have n9 excuse t9 6ring up such t9pics with9ut pr9perly preparing them for it 6ef9re hand.

And an9ther matter is that I am pers9nally 9ffended 6y the fact that y9u insist 9n n9t 9nly 9penly insulting me 6ut g9ing as far as t9 refer t9 me and my friends as wrigglers. C9nsidering we are 9lder than y9ur universe I w9uld 6elieve we, 9r at least I, deserve s9me messure 9f respect regarding that. T9 call 9ne a wriggler is demeaning and c9ndescending, th9ugh given y9ur track rec9rd s9 far I'm almost willing t9 put that 9ff 9n y9u simply 6eing ign9rant t9 the sensitivity 9f 9thers 9r simply uncaring entirely. Th9ugh I w9uld like t9 give y9u the 6enefit 9f d9u6t 9n the matter and g9 with the first 9ption 6ecause quite frankly I find it appalling t9 think that any versi9n 9f me c9uld p9ssi6ly 6e such an insensitive 6astard as t9 9penly insult and demean 9thers. Th9ugh I cann9t 6e sure c9nsidering what I have seen 9f y9u is rather disapp9inting 9ver all and I can't say I appr9ve 9f y9ur meth9ds, despite the intent that may 6e 6ehind them, I'm sure there c9uld have 6een 9ther ways t9 g9 a69ut it. 6ut I w9n't get int9 the matter 9f h9w y9u handled y9ur situati9n as that w9uld require far m9re trigger warnings than we sh9uld g9 int9 right n9w c9nsidering that there are already a large num6er 9f them necessary f9r this al9ne.

T9 sum this up, I w9uld appreciate it if y9u w9uld 6e m9re c9nsiderate in the future and take 9thers 9pini9ns and em9tions int9 acc9unt 6ef9re y9u s9 carelessly thr9w ar9und p9tential triggers as y9u have here and 6e sure t9 warn them 6ef9re hand if y9u plan 9n g9ing int9 such su6jects.
thisisyourgod: angry (THAT IS THE OPPOSITE OF GOOD.)

[personal profile] thisisyourgod 2012-09-26 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
OH SWEET EVERLIVING SON OF A MOTHERFUCK. I AM NOT EVEN SEEING THIS RIGHT NOW. BOTH OF YOU CUT IT OUT BEFORE YOU TALK THIS ENTIRE MUN-HATING DIMENSION TO DEATH.