on ghost adventures from a relatively pagan perspective? kinda?

[gwenhwyfar]

How strange it is to hear these things from a Christian perspective or relatively close to it. I don't recall the Morrigan being an active participant of the Host in that fashion. Just because it was Badb that took my eye, does not mean that she and her sisters have a malevolent nature. And it was never in their nature to take those to "Hell", only the Otherworld when the veil between the dead and living lifts. Sometimes it's a good practice to carry cold iron during Samhain, but there's no point in instructing others to do so if they don't heed the warning when the winds rise from the west.

And honestly, what sort of girl throws herself at the hands of a stranger like that? Did she really look underneath the table while playing cards and saw hooves? It's as if any demon out there proclaims themselves to be the actual Devil himself. I doubt it. It sounds like an old wive's tale told to girls to keep it to themselves until marriage.

That was pitiful, why on earth did you subject yourself to that nonsense? Those who rise from the shadows or are omens of death and war are not always evil. The Aos Sidhe never did care for human affairs, they will never side themselves one way in particular.

The people of Eire were always prone to be wild in imagination, weren't they? I won't miss that.

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[giantsofty]

Aye. Those lacking wisdom often fill the void with imagination. I've never grasped why, when they could instead learn of truth.

[gwenhwyfar]

That's hardly being imaginative, that's nothing but irrational fear for darkness that those people possess.

[giantsofty]

The two are intertwined. Imagination is the way the fear that thinking creatures possess evolved. Once they gained rationality, it became possible to be irrational- to the fangs of a shadow.

[gwenhwyfar]

It is absurd; it does not take much to respect our ways and learn. Instead of just assuming that it is evil.

[giantsofty]

Aye. My people have had the same history. [Because giants... Who doesn't fear them?] Humans are slow to learn, on the whole. To teach a single one is a simple task. To spread that knowledge amongst them takes generations, without some grand event to turn all their heads at once.

[superbia]

Lesser demons must puff themselves up in order to not be consumed by any passing spirit. As always, power is the only language that any race can understand.

[gwenhwyfar]

There is no way any of that is demonic. It's just a silly preconceived notion for premarital sex.

[ But that is what she thinks and she still doesn't see what the big deal is. ]

[superbia]

Ah, one of those myths. I think many people forget that angels were just as promiscuous.

[gwenhwyfar]

[ Of course. Hi, you're talking to the offspring of a Grigori. SO MANY FEELINGS ON THAT STATEMENT. ]

It's likely just a story, nothing more. She was probably touched in the head.

[superbia]

[ERGH, YEAH, SORRY ABOUT THAT REGINA]

I would say more than touched, but that seems to be part of the human condition.

[afullmoon]

I've always wondered how a hooved guy would get around. Seems like that's askin for the chance to fall on your face or your ass.

So, what were you watchin? Or readin?

[gwenhwyfar]

Cernunnos the horned god, the father of nature around me, would have a few things to say about that. It cannot be that hard. The imagery is absurd; they took our old gods and twisted them to their own iconography.

Watched. But it is over now. Old ghost stories from Eire.

[afullmoon]

'pends on the size of the hooves, don't it? Most of the time in the movies, I see them and think they just look like shoes. Cramped shoes. Movies for ya.

Is there anything you like from Eire movies, or across the water? Or do you just see how they warped your religion?

[gwenhwyfar]

Considering Lord Cernunnos has the antlers of the deer, that should answer your question. But it was the Romans old gods who had a half goat of a man or half horse.

[ And those actually sounded interesting. ]

The Lady of the Lake, Nimue, and the sisterhood we were apart of. We kept the forest and lake as sacred ground, that no one would be allowed to come through it without permission of the gods. Not even Nimue's adopted son.

[afullmoon]

So long as he doesn't come around and kick me in the balls, I think we'll be okay.

[Huh. That does sound interesting.]

How'd they know they had permission from the gods?

[partyrocks]

Demons do tend to be pretty full of themselves. [Except somehow he's not lumping himself in there.] Most of the ones I've met, at least.

[gwenhwyfar]

They are just smear stories against my faith. Demons may tend to be full of themselves, but Christians are no better.

[partyrocks]

[He's thinking, and you can tell because he scratches his shaggy head.] Look, I've met humans who are just as bad, worse maybe, than the demons I've fought. I'm not gonna stand here and pretend humans are blameless.

But demons do that too. Give them a legend, and most of them will believe it so blindly that they act on it just the same.

sorry about the history TEEL DEER here

[gwenhwyfar]

Before me were the ordovices and before them were the people of Gaul. They came to them because they saw them as uncivilized. We, the celts, have never wronged them. The Roman empire pushed them to every corner of their land, they stole so much of them. They took their culture and way of life.

Now we practice our faith in secret! We cannot even utter the names of our old gods, because our gods are their demons. What good is that? All of my life, I have been raised to bring back the old ways, so that my people do not live in fear. It goes beyond demons and humans, Dante, it is freedom to believe what we want to believe.

no give me all your teel deers

[partyrocks]

[If he were older, he'd probably make some point out of this, or say something veiled and sort of wise but mostly cheesy about the will of the heart overcoming all obstacles. But Dante's 19.]

You know, if I was there, I'd have your back, right?

[His coolness will remain intact if he looks away from her when he says it, right?]

[whitespirit]

Your words are wise. The Fae folk should be respected and their presence should be treated with caution. There is a reason why my people value our priestesses. They are meant to intervene between the worlds and ensure we are protected from Otherworldly evil.

[gwenhwyfar]

If the fair folk chose the heed the words of a respected priestess. What the do is of their own volition, they are always destined to be fickle as much as the winds and waters they govern.

[whitespirit]

My family has fared well under the guidance of Priestesses, but you are correct: fortunes can change with the wind.

[dux_atrum]

I find that humans as a whole are quite imaginative, perhaps as a way to attempt to make sense of an infinite world with their own finite existence. Though I do wonder, would you be quite so adamantly against such stories if they had come from those you consider your own?

[gwenhwyfar]

Personal experience, largely. My friend is one of the daughters of Macha. Honestly, why on earth would a pure blood like you come as a half-goat? It's ridiculous.