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Why do all the old Doctors disappear whenever there's a new one?

And my mun will take responsibility for me disappearing for so long. She got busy with work and at the end of the day...was just too tired. (He's a bit depressed about that.)

Sorry, it wasn't on purpose and definitely not because of the new...well, me.

I think she still misses the Tens.

It's because of you.

It's because no one likes you.

Did you know there's an entire movement right now just to get a DR made you'll be banned from? That's how much people don't like you.

Also thanks for being the cancer slowly killing SWS, it's been great watching the posts there get fewer and fewer because no one wants to play with your entitled ass.

. . . you did notice how old this post is, right?

Of course! I'm trawling old posts of yours to find the most insane content to pass along to more respectable players for the new DR movement.

Do you really just play to spite everyone who wants you gone? No trolling, I just didn't expect you to reply and am honestly curious at this point.

Of course not, that's just a useful bonus :p

Honestly, I still have no idea why you seen to have latched onto me to be a mindless asshole at. I know you're probably a 13-year-old boy and immature for your age, but even by that standard any actual reasoning appears to be nonexistent.

What, this post being old? Are you admitting you use the 'all that stuffed happened years ago defense to keep mods from banning you?

It'd be funny if you know who I really was, because once upon a time, way back before the LJ exodus, you couldn't get enough of me. Oh, you latched on my leg and humped and humped and humped until there was no tomorrow! And then I dropped that character and identity altogether because it was just the only way to be rid of you, but rest assured, we've known each other for a very long time.

You know you're fighting a losing battle, right? You can convince a mod here and a mod there that you're just picked on and misunderstood, but the basic problems with you are still there no matter what lies you tell and everyone, everyone, drops you once they know what you're all about. For like a year and a half now the only people you've been able to get to play with you are newbies too dumb to know better.

And I just wonder, do you even enjoy it anymore? Do you really just stick around to 'spite us'? Kronk got it, Murder got it, Kevin got it, hell even Stormy got it, but you? You just keep plugging away.

I'd almost admire that resolve, except for that whole thing where you're a toxic person treating people like toys because people let you get away with it.

So who are you, then?

Let's just put this way, I was one of the many, many people who tried talking with you rationally in those memebells incidents.

And then I learned you're not just autistic and misunderstood, that you know exactly why people have problems with you and just don't care, and that you'll never change because you don't want to change.

Also, do you really have fantasies about killing and eating people? I mean, I've known of you for six years, you've been in journal rp for like eight or nine, and in literally all that time all i've ever seen you play are chaotic evil killer types. A lot of people think you're an Adam Lanza type, did you know that? They think that you're gonna snap one day and go on a shooting spree IRL because, as you've told us so often, this is literally all you have

(I don't think you would personally, but that's just because I don't think you're competent enough to actually do it.)

So you learned the total opposite of reality? Great job.

I've got a few more RL friends these days, don't worry :p

Although if people thought that, wouldn't it be deeply counterproductive to ignore me? Seriously, humans are strange.

So what is the reality then, hmmm?

I'm sure you do. After all, that's why you're still clinging to journal RP, right? ;)

Do you really expect people to give you tags because they think you're some kind of slowly-boiling cauldron of insanity? Is your understanding of your fellow humans (because yes, you are human too, no matter how much you wish otherwise) really that flawed?

Let me enlighten you: they have nothing to lose by ignoring you. Thanks to the anonymity of the internet, they can be sure you won't be able to find them if you ever did snap one day.

Umm, that I rarely ever got what they were complaining about and did try to improve what I could?

Well shit, why are YOU clinging to it?

So people are selfish, cruel and totally incapable of looking at the bigger picture? You know, I think I knew that already. But thanks for more confirmation!

People told you. I told you. You can't use that as an excuse, not when people told you in the most concrete language possible. Please don't insult me my pulling that one out again, after all these years. You know why people 'complained', you just didn't care. And now, three years later, you still don't.

Because, unlike you, I'm having fun with it. Not with this journal, of course, this one is just for you, but with many others, yes. I moved on from Dr. Who and moved on from that character type and tried new things. You might try that yourself, except I don't think at this point you're even capable of it anymore.

See, this is why I've kept poking you wherever I could and why I and so many other people are trying so hard to get you banned from as many places as possible. Because according to you, literally everyone else but you is the problem. 'People are selfish, cruel, and totally incapable of looking at the larger picture'

Except for you, right? You're the one exception. Everyone else in the world is the problem, not you. It's amazing to me how you can perform these mental gymnastics just to deny the reality that's right here in front of you.

Oh come off it. 'You're doing everything wrong' is not helpful in any way, and that seemed to be most of what I got.

I'd be having fun with it if you and your fellow assholes didn't act like a pack of useless morons whenever possible.

I'm not the one randomly harassing people, am I? And trust me, I'm quite aware that I'm not perfect. But I'm doing my best, so please bugger off.

That's you oversimplifying. I thought about going back and grabbing examples of crit that spelled out exactly what the problem was, and then I remember your response to them the first time and how you'd just ignore them this time too. Admit it to yourself, if not to me, that you know what the problem is -- or rather, what people have taken issue with all these years, because to you it's not a problem, is it? We really are just all here to be toys in your sandbox according to you. I thought I could never be amazed by you again, but heh, you found a way to make me feel like it's 2011 and 2012 all over again.

See? It's always the same with you. Everyone else is the problem, not you. Is this defensiveness, or this actually the way you feel?

This isn't harassment. This is making sure no one else has to go through what I went through, having you tag every single post I made for months, sending me PMs about how lonely you were and how glad you I was playing with you and essentially guilt-tripping me into playing with you for as long as I bought it, and then trying to work in this cannibal fixation of yours on me at every opportunity. That's what's wrong. It was wrong then in 2012, and it's still wrong today. And yeah, maybe you're swapped out the obvious cannibalism for 'just' a brainwashed serial killer, but it's still the exact. same. thing.

why are you so obsessed with serial killers? please, if we resolve nothing else with this conversation (and we won't, I already know, because it's you), then just tell me this. Why, just once, can't you try playing a character that is not a bloody, murderous, psychopathic monster? You could play in TFLN every week and no one would blink twice at you.

The thing is, I never tried to godmod or anything. I was never intending to step on anyone's toes, so I had no idea what I needed to change. And no one would point anything out to me, so it wound up as an endless, stupid cycle.

Guess what? I have pretty bad anxiety. So when people go away I get really worried about them, because I am an actually empathetic human being. I say I'm glad people are there because I am fucking glad they are still alive and unharmed.

And fuck, I play bad guys because they usually have more personality than good guys. Because they're the ones with the kind of lousy histories that make me feel the most sympathetic. Because it's a good way of releasing frustrations. But does it even really matter why? It's not like you really care.

Okay. If that's true, then why have you kept on doing it? You got banned from dear multiverse all the way back in 2008 for godmoding. If you didn't know you were doing it, then why didn't you stop then? Instead you kept doing it for four more years. And I still see you do it every now and again, when you can get away with it.

And if it's true that you're actually an empathetic human being, then why won't you just listen to all the people telling you why they're bothered by your characters and the way you play? I'd be willing (and happy!) for you to prove me wrong, just like I was really hoping back in 2012 you'd listen and change for the better, but I don't look at you, a person who has for 8 years played cannibals, serial killers and other violent types, and see an empathetic person. I know ICA =/= ICC, but you basically said in those memebells posts you were playing yourself when you play The Master. How can someone who empathizes with other people, as you say you do, take so much joy in the fantasies of killing and eating them?

I could buy this last one, because hell, it's true. Bad guys do have more personality than the heroes usually, they have to because they're the ones driving the plot. But you said back then you don't like or care about plots. And you're always playing the exact same type of bad guy too. If you like just bad guys, why not play a noble one with good points who just goes too far, like, idk, Andrew from Chronicle, or Davy Jones from Pirates of the Carribean? Or if you like your villains villainy, how about one who just doesn't have the cannibal shtick? You want to get in on that MCU action, play a Loki! There's hundreds of them, no one would ever connect one to you. You could have that actual fresh start I'm sure a part of you must want somewhere.

I don't want to say I care about you, because you used my emotions once to manipulate me. I don't know if you know that you did it and are still doing it, or if you're just blind to it, but in either case I think it's a little inappropriate. We're all just people who know each other on the Internet here, asking for 'caring' is a little much to ask from most of us. I think, if you can just learn to respect people's boundaries, that would be enough to allow you to participate in this community (dwrp, I mean, not dear_mun) without anyone having an issue with you. You would need to start over, though, and not connect any of your new characters to the ones you play now because the reasons people don't like you now, they would follow you if anyone knew who you were still. As I'm sure you've realized, people in this hobby don't forget.

Let me know if anything I said above goes over your head and I'll try to explain it again so you understand. I... can't believe I'm saying this, after four years, but if there is a way to help you, I'd like to if it's possible.

Er, because I don't realize I'm doing it? Just like I never did before?

People don't tell me that, generally. People don't tell me much of anything. They either say nothing to me at all or go over my head. If someone actually asks me not to tag them or whatever I try not to, but it's hard to tell sometimes when they don't say anything about it.

. . . I do play Loki. Not often, but I do. And I play him as mostly a hero, even, because he's honestly the most well-meaning person in those movies and because his life in the myths is so shitty that Ragnarok is an understandable response.

Okay. Maybe that's true. But if that's true, then you need someone right there with you almost with every thread you do, just because you're that unaware of your own actions. I don't know, it's just a little hard for me to believe anybody could be writing off other people for.. how long has it been, really? 8 years? 9? Longer? - and not be aware of what they're doing.

People don't feel comfortable communicating with you. Over the years, you've built up a reputation as one of the worst players in this hobby. And I'm not telling you that to troll you, I'm telling you that because apparently you really don't know it. They go over your head because they don't think you'll listen to them, because you haven't before. I know of multiple people who used to play with you and then got burnt out and didn't want to, and they've spent years just trying to avoid you. But you don't listen when they ask you not to tag them, you just keep tagging and keep tagging.

Er. Right. Sorry, I'd forgotten about that Loki. I guess he might work, but you'd probably have better luck just playing the MCU version of him, as people know that Loki is one of your journals. In general, if you really want a fresh start, it's going to need to be with a character no one would expect you to play.

Here's some ways you could make it work:
- Commonly-used icons. Like with Loki, a big reason why people knew right away it was you is because people were able to recognize the icons of being (apologies) substandard quality and deduce you made them yourself. I don't know if you know what borders are (if you don't, ask) but in this hobby, people tend to judge players whose icons aren't 100x100. Get your icons from hollowart, or from an icon maker like corelite or famira, and that way people won't be able to tell it's you by your icons.
- Use the standard journal layout. Back in LJ, journal customization was the thing, but nowadays there's more of a focus on minimialism. Another way people recognize your journals is because you customize them, usually with the same style. Use the basic layout a journal has when you make it, you'll blend in better that way
- Look at the canons that are popular nowadays and think about maybe playing a character from one of them. As someone who is an LCW myself, I know that's a bit hypocritical of me to say, but if you really want to play with people the best way is to play a character from something they like. Like, your Loki would probably get a lot more tags if it was the MCU Loki you were playing, and not an AU of the actual mythological one. When it comes down to it, I mean, you DO have the right to play what you want. But I think that playing from a popular canon (suggestions: Mad Max, Jurassic World, Steven Universe, MCU) would help you get a fresh start with people who would be interested in tagging back and not just tag you back out of pity.

And finally, here is the most important advice I can possible give you:
- Ditch the serial killer characters. I literally cannot overemphasize this enough. Right now you are infamous in DWRP for playing exclusively that character type, the blood-and-gore-soaked violent types, and honestly, I don't think playing them is good for you as a person either. Set aside all the complaints of other people, everything about everyone else. I don't think playing monsters is good for you. Because, and correct me if I'm wrong, but you've been shunned by people IRL for a good portion of your life, right? I think part of why, all these years, you've only played monster characters is because a part of you feels like a monster because other people have shunned you, and so by playing monsters you get a sense of power and control that you weren't able to get IRL. But the problem is, playing those monsters keeps you from growing, because it keeps you in the mindset that you're a monster. You can grow, you don't have to feel like a monster or like someone who's hated, but as long as you play hated characters and play them in ways where the other people have no choice but to hate them, you won't know the pleasure that you could have from all the other character types that can be played. Have you ever played in a TFLN meme? Or a coffeehouse AU type scene, or a (not violent) smut meme? There is SO MUCH MORE to DWRP than you're letting yourself experience, and that's just punishing yourself in a way that you don't deserve.

Part of it is that when I write I focus very much on the art of it. Saying that something happened tends to flow much better than saying it might happen. And I have problems with theory of mind--I almost never even think of lying, for example, and am oddly proud of myself when I do--so I generally assume that people understand that I'm not setting things in stone.

But how can they expect me to know they don't want to play with me if they don't tell me they don't want to play with me? Fucking Catch-22, you know?

It's hard to find icons that fit, though, that's why I make my own. And the standard journals are, well, boring :(

I do play in fairly popular fandoms, though, mostly?

I don't play in memes that much, and I don't generally like smut. 'Normal' AUs tend to be dull, but I have played in TFLN memes.

I think that's what gets you in so much trouble, your lack of understanding of theory of mind. People figure the worst of you, and everything you give them confirms that image of the worst. Like, remember those post you made on dear_mun and sws where you had the Master talk about killing people who bothered you? People saw those posts and figured you were an unbalanced person who would really like to see them dead and eaten. And because all you play are violent characters, that conclusion became the more prevailing belief. And even now, I don't know if it's true. You could be manipulating me right now. If so, you're very, very good at it. But you seem to be listening, which is more progress than anyone has had with you in years, so I'm going to hope you're not manipulating me, and you really would like to be a part of DWRP in a healthy way and just don't know how to because you're so disconnected from other people.

Yeah, I get that it's a Catch-22. But it's get the result of how you've played with people all these years, do you understand that? That bad rep didn't just materialize overnight. You don't have to admit, to me or anyone else, you made mistakes, but I think if you admit that to yourself, and then decide for yourself you're not going to make those mistakes anymore, you could find a lot more happiness in this hobby than you've got right now.

I know what you mean about icons. More than a few of the characters I play now I have to improvise icons for, because no conventional icons of them exist and, like you, I'm not good at making them. But it really is better to use the more 'professional' icons that others have made instead of trying to make your own. And yeah, the standard journal layouts are boring, but your character isn't your layout, is he (or she)? I thought like you did at first too about the layouts, but then I realized that if people see the standard layout they'll be more likely to tag me back. It's about fitting in with people, and I think that's something you struggle very hard with. That's why I'm trying to explain it to you.

Dr. Who used to be a popular fandom, but it's really not anymore. Welcome to Night Vale is popular for their music, but not very many people play from it. Hannibal was a popular fandom, but like with your Loki, you played from a more obscure part of it (though, I don't think the Hannibal show was airing when you made that journal, was it?) The 2007 Hannibal movie isn't remembered as being very good. If you want to play Hannibal, you'd have better luck playing the show version of him.

I think you should think a little bit about why you play and what you want of DWRP, too, if you're really serious about this. Think about what it is that's kept you here all this time, because that's something only you can answer. And if it really is just you sticking around to spite all the people who want you gone, then that's not a healthy reason to be anywhere and you're just letting those people have power over you by doing that. But if you stick around for the social interaction (as I think you do), then why not make it easier for others to interact with you and for you to interact with them? A lot of people back then told you they had a really hard time playing off you because you didn't give them any other way to play with you other than an antagonistic way. It wasn't for anyone to watch your character eating people and be unable to stop them or help them. Even with the Master himself, some people wanted to play with him but then you told those people you didn't have any interest in him growing so they gave up. People want to see and feel like their interactions mean something to you, does that make any sense? They don't want to just be a shoulder to cry on and a spectator to bloody violence. They want more than that.

I thought I was supposed to be the one confused about IC vs. OOC LOL It was just the character's version of being helpful, that's all. And of course I'm not manipulating you--although there's that theory of mind shit again, right? I know that I can barely manipulate myself out of a paper bag, and that's only because of how surprising the attempt is, but you don't.

I suppose. It wasn't intentional, though, which makes it harder to feel bad about. And since I never tried to make the mistakes in the first place avoiding them is still hard.

Fitting in is hard, yeah.

The show version of him is so, well, manipulative, though. Which, as we've gone over with, I'm pretty incapable of. And so many of the characters I like are from stories that are good as opposed to just super-popular. I don't even own a TV right now, and when I did I only used it for (mostly obscure) movies and video games.

I want to be social. I mostly want to have fun. And I wouldn't entirely mind the characters growing some, but it's hard to stay in character if there's too much change.

Exactly. You confessed you were basically playing yourself when you played the Master, so when you had him talk about killing people, they saw that as your words rather than his. This is why I'm telling you starting over, with a whole new character no one would expect you to play, is your best chance for getting regular tags again. People in DWRP don't forget things, and when you told them you play yourself through your character, every awful thing your character did became seen as an extension of yourself.

Have you ever heard the saying "the road to hell is paved with good intentions"? It's sad, but sometimes good intentions aren't enough. When you weren't apologetic at all in those memebells discussions 3 years ago, but just angry and defensive, it gave people the impression that you didn't want to hear what they had to say and were only interested in what you want and need. Which, to a certain extent you are (and can't help being) because of your autism. But you can learn to understand how people think, if not why they think that way, and I know you can because I can and I'm on the spectrum too.

People want to feel like they're heard. They want to feel like they're in an equal relationship, and aren't just being used. I think that's true everywhere. But they're not as bad as you sometimes say they are, I don't think. If they were, don't you think you really would have been banned from everywhere years ago? People want to see the best in others. They want to see the best in you. Hell, I wrote you off years ago as a lost cause and here I am trying to see the best in you.

Heh, who even needs a TV anymore? I don't own one either. I haven't watched anything on a TV in... hell, since we were playing together seriously. If I want to watch a show, I just stream it or torrent it. No one really even needs a TV anymore, as long as you have a good connection and your computer has decent processing power.

People don't really care so much about staying in character. They told you that back on memebells, but that was just because they felt the canon version of the Master would be more fun to play off than your version. Generally, if a character is fun to play with, people won't care how IC they are. The thing is, though, your characters aren't usually fun to play off. They're either wallowing in self-pity or going on killing sprees, and neither of those things are fun for people to play off of. There's nothing for them to add and no real reason for them to be there. They want to feel like participants, not just spectators.

*Sigh* When I said that, I meant that I tend to play characters by putting myself in their place as much as I can and responding the way I would if I were them. Which is probably how a lot of people play, really.

You are too? Really? Neat!

Yes, but I don't do that either. I watch maybe 2 TV shows. I don't think I'm in any of the really big fandoms at this point, to be honest.

Kevin should be fun. He's pitiful in some ways, but literally incapable of self-pity right now. He goes on long cheerful rambles about weird shit that can start interesting conversations. He won't kill people much--or at any rate won't notice, so it doesn't really count--so violence won't be a big problem. It's a good start, I think, so I'm trying to get more into his headspace. I have a couple of Night Vale playlists on repeat LOL

There's that theory of mind thing again, though. I had to go back and look, and this is the thread I think where you either outed yourself as playing yourself through the master, or misexplained yourself in such a bad way that that's the explanation people took away from it. which, i mean, i think you actually do and it's not a misunderstanding and you just take it too far, if that makes any sense? Like, yeah, we all put a little of ourselves in our characters, we have to, but we're also aware we're playing individuals different from ourselves, in some ways very different from ourselves. And here I think again you run into trouble because of the theory of mind thing. It's so hard for you to understand actual people in real life, so it can't be easy for you to maintain a great number of differences between you and the characters you play.

Let's be straightforward with each other, since we're talking in a conversation that will probably involve just the two of us: it's not 'neat'. What we suffer from, you and I (and a good deal of other people in this hobby), it's a thing that keeps us from ever truly being a part of the humanity we belong to. We live among them, we can work among them and talk to them, but we can never understand them as they understand each other. We can learn how they think, but never why they think that way. And, at least for me, intimacy is impossible. I don't know if it's like that for you too, but I was in all of one relationship with another person before I understood my condition made me too selfish to have anything to offer anyone, and I've been single ever since. I will never have children. I'll never get married. And you, I can't speak for anything about you, but you are here. I think you have a void you're trying to fill too.

So, yeah, I don't think there's much 'neat' about what we have.

[nods] (or *nods* for old time's sake?) Yeah, I didn't think you were into too many other fandoms. I wasn't either, not for a long time, and my interests are still kind of narrow I must confess. That too is the spectrum, we like stuff stable. But I did get into at least one of the 'popular' fandoms and I think you could get a lot more RP mileage if you did too. It's about fitting in again. We might not like it, but we live in a world with other people than just us, I have to accept that you're as much a person as I am and have all the same rights and entitlements as I do, and you have to accept the same of me. And we're in a hobby with thousands of other people who aren't us, each of whom deserve all the rights and entitlements we do. If you want to be a part of this hobby, you have to learn to be a part of it. That means taking other people's needs and wants into account.

I've seen your scenes with Kevin, and while in a couple ways he's different from the Master, I think you'll still have a real hard time getting CR with him in the long run, because of two reasons:
1. He still fits into that 'violent bloody murderer' type of character you've got such a bad rep for playing, and
2. His lack of self-pity is due to being brainwashed, it's not really him.

I'll be honest, if you asked me to play off Kevin, I wouldn't want to. Not because it's you, or because of anything that went on in the past, but just because the way you play him so far isn't any more accessible to other people than that master was. like, take your tags in that meme I spammed you for. I read them, and they were all about him. Him being captured by Stark Industries, his nightmare with Tony Stark, his nightmare with Cecil, etc. It's still all about your character and nothing about the other person. Why not, when you tag someone else in that meme, let it be a little bit about their character too? Like, take Tony. Tony is afraid of the wormhole from Avengers, he has post-traumatic flashbacks to it in Iron Man 3. Why not slip that wormhole in somehow? That way, the nightmare can be his nightmare too, and not just Kevin's.

Exactly. That's something that always worries me, whether the character is too much myself still.

It's nice to know I'm not alone, though. And I understand what you're saying, but to some degree I feel like 'normal' people spend so much of their time playing nasty social pecking-order games that I'm better off this way. It may hurt more, yes, but my eyes are clearer.

It's hard to start a thread that way, though. I have to introduce him, so it'll start off more focused on that.

That's why I play characters that are as different from me as possible, these days. Like, the characters I play now, they'd probably despise me if they were real and met me, just because of how different I am from them. But I like that, it lets me walk through shoes I'd never get to wear otherwise. That's why I say you should try a different character from the types you usually play, just to see how you'd like it.

You know, I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out why people play those games. When I was in high school, one year I got transferred to a new school and by total accident I learned that just something as simple as wearing different clothes could impact how people treated me. All the popular kids who never looked at me twice at my old school suddenly wanted to be my friend, just because of what I was wearing. I got to experimenting with it. Wearing different clothes, acting in different ways to see how I could fit into different social circles. I think what we do here in DWRP is just a really really basic version of that kind of acting, at its core.

That first tag is usually the most important one, it decides whether a person will tag you back or not. That's why I've learned to actually make it be as much about the other player's character as possible, because then they'll be super interested in tagging back. Like, if I was playing Kevin in those tags, I would have had Tony's nightmare be the wormhole above, and then Chitauri warriors in StrexCorp uniforms. Slip in a little of my guy, but still make it mostly about them. And with Darcy I would have written in the Destroyer, maybe fused with a NightVale monster (I don't know too much about NightVale, sorry). It takes a little more work to write that way, because you have to research the other character. But I think it's the best way to get people to tag you back, because then they know you're interested in them and not just trying to use them as toys. You see what I mean?

I tend towards depression, so Kevin is pretty different. And I'm a lot more aware than he is--who isn't?

People are fucking weird, yeah?

Those are good ideas! Although WtNV is such a weird canon, I'm not sure what wouldn't be a Night Vale monster.

. . . I don't suppose you'd actually come play with me on that meme, would you? Help me figure out how to do things right? I might even get you into the fandom :P

Sorry about the lateness, I'm trying to get out a few tags I owe before I turn in for the night.

I guess you could call what I've got a kind of depression. It's like some days I'm fine, and then other days it just hits me how pointless everything is, my life especially, and I have to take something or I just don't do anything the whole day. But yeah, I think it's important to play characters with a contrast to us that way. If Kevin gives you that, I really do wish you luck in playing with him.

Heh. People are just people. To them, we're the weird ones, you know?

When I saw you playing from Night Vale, it reminded me of those people who used to play from that Fabulous Killjoys album, remember them? It was a different direction for you, that's for sure. I did actually feel kind of bad for you when everyone recognized your Kevin anyway.

Give me tonight to trim down my tags, and tomorrow I might. I don't know. I'm still really cautious about playing with you again, after the way things went last time. But I don't think you mean badly, I actually don't think you ever did, it's just that you're so focused on you you don't really stop to think about the rest of us. Which, hey, I'm a lot the same way, but I learned I couldn't really be that way if I wanted to enjoy this hobby, it has to be about everyone else too. Or at least the people I enjoy tagging back with who enjoy tagging back with me. ;)

I have absolutely no knowledge of that album whatsoever!

That would be great.

. . . you mentioned the MCU. Do you have an Iron Man, by any chance? The adorrifying misunderstandings between Stark Industries and StrexCorp is one of the things I've wanted to play out most.

For example? Thanks to one of my favorite WtNV fanfics, I totally see StrexCorp's hostile takeovers involving knife fights in the streets. Tony's reaction to Strex attempting a takeover or a merger would rock. And a deprogrammed Kevin's matter-of-fact descriptions of, well, everything in his life would be so wonderfully weird.

If you find this to be unhelpful rambling, feel free to ignore it!

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