Spencer Reid (
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dear_mun2012-05-28 10:54 pm
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Mun's reading fanfiction. Also, still voice testing.
C-can we not read that stuff? It's making me, ah, uncomfortable, to say the least...
[Why, Reid? Are you uncomfortable with being paired with everyone under the sun?]
Yes, I am, actually. You see, it is possible to have an emotionally intimate relationship without it being romantic; in fact, the Westermarck Effect guarantees--
[No. No, don't you dare go into a long lecture about sexuality.]
The point is that not everything is sexual! Especially not--I mean, I just don't understand--can't I spend two seconds with someone without having one of those things written about us?
[Why, Reid? Are you uncomfortable with being paired with everyone under the sun?]
Yes, I am, actually. You see, it is possible to have an emotionally intimate relationship without it being romantic; in fact, the Westermarck Effect guarantees--
[No. No, don't you dare go into a long lecture about sexuality.]
The point is that not everything is sexual! Especially not--I mean, I just don't understand--can't I spend two seconds with someone without having one of those things written about us?

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[Erm, best not ask Sherlock what he thinks about all the people he's paired with - including his brother.]
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He's just going to... stare... a lot...]
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[Hey, wait...] Excuse me, who are you?
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Sherlock Holmes.
[He pauses.]
Then you are focusing on the wrong issue. They're idiots. We know the reality and that's all that matters.
Oh-ho, the wonderful world of CM fanfiction. XD
Do I want to know?
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Either way, best to accept it. Reid arches an eyebrow, unsure if he should be impressed or wary, but he flinches away from the hand, giving an awkward wave instead. Have another socially inept genius, Sherlock!]
Well, I guess that's true, but reality isn't always all that matters. I really, really don't want to be the subject of anyone's delusions, since they can motivate people into committing particularly violent crimes, and even if it's not reality their belief in it can drive them to--[Stop him. Stop him before he gets into it.]
At a certain point, I don't know if I should run away or start contributing
Uh, no! No, you really don't!
[He goes bright red and his voice may be a slightly higher pitch than normal.]
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I assure you, there is only one consulting detective and I am he, Sherlock Holmes.
[He looks confused.]
Oh, please do continue. I have a certain interest in what others see as motivations for people to commit violent crimes.
[You should see his book shelf, Diary of Jack the Ripper, Signature Killers, The Holy Bible, The Tragedy of MacBeth pretty much in that order.]
I thought I could resist, but I gave in ages ago. It may be inevitable...
That bad?
Somehow it doesn't surprise me.
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[Oh wait, someone isn't actually telling him to shut up? He perks immediately. Yay! He gets to lecture!]
Well, you see, that's what I do for a living. I profile criminals--spree and serial killers, for the most part. You see, delusions can play a part in the motivation to murder--you feel justified in killing people if you're convinced they're replacements or spies or somehow going to hurt you--but for a lot of the UnSubs I deal with, there's brain damage or just old-fashioned sociopathy at work. Murderers sometimes have damage to their impulse control, or they just don't have the empathy to understand what is wrong with it--[He is going to continue like this for a while.]
Damn, I'm already starting on one >.<
Yeah, the imagination of our 'fans' never ceases to amaze me. And it's hard to amaze me.
[Seriously, can't a man go around being really pretty and cute and have lots of fluffy scenes with his family figures without getting shipped?]
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Psychopathy.
[He pauses and waits for Reid to stop.]
You said sociopathy, but you mean psychopathy. I was nearly impressed until you committed such a rudimentary error. There is, after all, a difference between the two.
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Yes, there is, but I meant sociopathy. Sociopaths are just as capable of killing as psychopaths. In some ways, sociopaths can be more dangerous if they feel that killing can fulfill their needs, because they tend to be more capable of blending in than psychopaths. Of course, I've met plenty of both during my job--the fundamental fact that they lack empathy remains the same, and that statistically makes them more likely to kill. [Believe him, a couple have held a gun to his head at one point or another. :| ]
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WRONG!
What's the premise/pairing?
I've come to realize that.
I'd say try to ignore it, but there's no turning back now, is there?
[ No, of course not. ]
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[He reviews the definitions of sociopath and psychopath in his head quickly. Sociopath: the defining trait of a sociopath is muted emotions or a complete lack of empathy, but the ability to hide it. Because of this lack of empathy, they tend towards lying habitually, often have juvenile delinquency records, and often develop the ability to simulate emotions to manipulate others. Because of their muted emotions, certain sociopaths have been known to get an emotional high from high-risk behavior, a trait they share with psychopaths, and worst case scenario, that high-risk behavior makes them kill to feel.
Psychopath: Like a sociopath, only less subtle, and the symptoms that constitute psychopathy are debated more than the symptoms of sociopathy. Psychopaths tend to be predatory in every day life, tend to be very impulsive, and can display symptoms of narcissism. Because of their impulsive natures and lure to high-risk lifestyles, they also can be killers, Charles Manson being an example of one.
Yep, he's pretty sure he's right, but maybe he's missing something?]
Gen story where Reid is forced into taking care of a kid he doesn't know. It's still sketching out.
[Can't he at least get to just occasionally hug them?]
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You're allowing your own struggles with mental heal issues to cloud your understandings of these two very distinct Antisocial behaviours.
[Besides, Sherlock is a sociopath (or thinks himself one at least, maybe because he has been convinced by others that he is one). The point is he clearly knows the difference.]
The psychopath's ability to manipulate people and situations can allow them to blend in just as well as a sociopath. How often has a neighbor said, "He wouldn't hurt a fly?" And sociopaths are much less likely to commit murder for the thrill of it. Passion would be a sociopath's motivation for murder. The psychopath's desire to kill for the thrill makes them much more dangerous. Also, a psychopath is much more likely to plan out the murders, it's part of the thrill - and typically, they eventually want to get caught - to be in the spotlight and have their hard work laid out for the world to see. A sociopath is more likely to make a mistake relatively soon because when you do things out of passion, you do not think things through.
Basically it comes down to motivation, so in your previous statement when you said "You see, delusions can play a part in the motivation to murder--you feel justified in killing people if you're convinced they're replacements or spies or somehow going to hurt you--but for a lot of the UnSubs I deal with, there's brain damage or just old-fashioned sociopathy at work." Your comparison is where you are wrong. Most sociopaths don't have the kind of delusion working - unless they have other underlying issues. That level of delusion is much more prevalent in psychopaths.
Awww that sounds adorably awkward.
[ No! All of those hugs will just be a prelude to something more! :P ]
Daddy!Reid is always adorable <3
[Then what is kissing a man on both cheeks for his birthday a prelude to, Rossi? >) ]
Indeed. I love his interactions with that autistic boy in Season 6
[ That is a very good question... ]
So did I!! Of course Reid of all people would figure a kid like him out <3
[You should reflect on that while Reid continues to be cute and lovable and occasionally hug the team.]
I think that's one of my favorite episodes.
[ The mun suddenly has many thoughts about those cheek kisses. ]
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Including eachother if we let it get too far. Fair warning.
I think Coda, Revelations, and Uncanny Valley are a few of my favorites <3
[Yes, reflect on those cheek kisses. Reflect while reading more shippy fanfiction.]
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What is with this collective obsession with our love lives? Morgan, I could understand. JJ or Prentiss, even. But us?
YES. I also love True Night to pieces.
[ Yes. Well. Imagine the ideas running through the mun's mind now. ]
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I think it's the fact that we hold it such low regard. Generally, at least in this place, the less someone is interested in sex, the more likely they are to want to figure out how it would work.
Because, obviously, sex with someone like us would be different then sex with someone else. [Have an eyeroll, other self. But hey, at least some of the awkwardness of sharing space with a better him was starting to wear off...]
True Night made me wibble. ;.; One of the only times I actually wanted the UnSub to escape
[Reid begs his mun to not encourage those ideas. His mun encourages away.
Also, dat icon.]
Me too. ;;
And I've been around long enough to know it could be worse.
[ I went searching for a kissy icon and lo and behold!
See, now you can't encourage these ideas and give me no outlet for them. :P ]
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I still can't fathom why... [He sighs, scrubbing his face with his hands.] You know what? You'd think I'd learn that I'm not going to understand these muns any time soon. I'll just hope she sticks to just toying with me. [He doesn't want to hold her interest. :|
And his mun insists on no awkwardness. Only fun. Lots of fun and roleplaying.]
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Because it's what they do, these muns. A proverbial bull in a china shop. It's best just to acknowledge this now...and it would also probably be best if we stopped talking. My mun is known to do incredibly random things, like RP while sleep deprived and in the state she's in currently, I'm not entirely certain our virtues would be safe.
Just a suggestion.
Which ep is the kissy icon from? It doesn't seem like True Genius *.*
[Reid does not like the sound of this. His mun is very intrigued.]
Yep, it is! Lol there were like 5 icons of just that kissy scene from different angles.
Pairing. Or circumstances, situations. Trust me, it can get a hell of a lot worse.
[ This mun thinks that things should be plotted. ]
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[He grimaces.] I would take your advise, but my mun won't allow it.
Pfff, I should get one xD
[So does this one. PM sound good?]
You should!
[ PM is great! Also, here's where I found the icons: http://ms-lesly.livejournal.com/925.html#cutid1
/will totally grab one when she's off her smartphone
\o/
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[He'll go on like this for a while if you let him, Rossi.]
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Uh huh. I get it, Reid.
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The bad news is now she's awake enough to be highly amused by our interactions. This probably isn't much of an improvement.
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[He feels a headache coming on.] Why is our discomfort amusing to everyone?
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[Sympathy wince, you have one. And a couple of extra strength Ibuprofen held out in the palm of a hand.] I'm still trying to figure that one out, actually.
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[He grimaces and nods in thanks. Just gonna grab those Ibuprofen tablets and swallow them dry.] A few of my headmates have told me it's because we're 'cute'. For some reason, that means that muns are attracted to hurting us. [...Wait.] ...Do muns often arrange for some comfort for their 'muse' after a torture session? [What if it's some strange incarnation of Angel of Death behavior? Hurting a muse, just to save them. It would make sense they would be targeted, then--they look vulnerable, and they are as far from Alpha personalities as you can get. They're the type of people others just feel the need to dote over (much to his chagrin sometimes).]
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Still, he's just going to nod.]
Usually. I think they call it hurt/comfort. Personally, I think it's closer to Munchausen by Proxy. They 'break' us, only to 'fix' us again. Granted, sometimes the 'fix it' threads are nice. But the ones where they break us? Well, let's just say I'm not a fan.
[He's watched his lover die, been raped repeatedly, and been beaten to within an inch of his life. He'll pass, kthnxs.]
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Munchausen? Do muns give each other sympathy and positive attention when their muses get hurt? [He puts his hand to his chin.] Actually, my headmates have mentioned behavior like that. What if muns have different factors going into their treatment of us? The ones that outright break us--they could be displacing their own anger over something they cannot control on us. The ones that give us drawn out torture before dropping us and looking for new muses? Sadists that are uncomfortable with taking their urges out on 'real' people. The muns that hurt their muses for attention, the ones who hurt them just to comfort them, the ones that go out of their way to make sure their muses are comfortable and happy--all these things could be linked to symptoms of an illness or peculiar personality quirk. I'd need to actually observe them more, but...
[He glances around, sensing his mun and reviewing her behavior in his head. Where do you fall, mun?
Damn it, Reid, stop psychoanalyzing your mun. Also, stop babbling.]