The Slutcracker Prince ([personal profile] prurientprince) wrote in [community profile] dear_mun2013-04-27 10:42 pm
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When the Slutcracker Prince is a Princess, she gets really shippy

What do you mean when I'm a girl? I'm shippy all the time! This is just the first time I've gone all Dark Helmet on you.

[She's holding two dolls that resemble a pair she may or may not be stalking from outside a game. She's roughly pressing them together.]

Yes, yes, now bite her in the tit! And you maul his face!

[Questions of age aside, I gotta say I didn't figure you for a hateshipper, TSP.]

A hatecrush is still a crush, Mundane. I might not get behind all of it but I can get behind the important parts.

You are infringing on trademark and copyright.

[personal profile] therealslutcracker 2013-04-28 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
The Slutcracker is a trademarked property. The images you are using are copyrighted images. Remove them immediately or face legal action.

This is your first and last warning.

Signed,
Vanessa
the owner of all said properties

[personal profile] 108socks 2013-04-29 05:29 pm (UTC)(link)
So do you actually go here or did you throw yourself at Dreamwidth like a crazy person because you figured someone was pretending to own your shit?

Just curious.

Signed,
Fandom RP
Who are all wondering wtf you are even on rn

FYI

[personal profile] therealslutcracker 2013-04-29 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Very simply, I receive email alerts any time anything Slutcracker-related pops up on the web.

Vanessa
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Re: FYI

[personal profile] considers 2013-04-29 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm curious, do you know how fandom RP works? The original poster was not trying to be you in any way, fashion, or form. They aren't making any money. They just happen to like your character enough to produce fandom works. That's pretty flattering, and as a writer trying to get published, I can't wait until my writing gathers enough interest for someone to roleplay as one of my characters on an obscure website. That means you're in good company. People here rp from the works of Tolkien, GRR Martin, and even some classic literature like Victor Hugo.

Also, I hope you realize it seems a bit disingenuous of you to be so harsh on "copywrite infringement" when it appears your work is a parody of a ballet you only have the right to parody due to being in the public domain.
uluithiad: (samwise the optimistic)

[personal profile] uluithiad 2013-04-29 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
also: bullshit.

ive seen this account around before now. why didn't you do anything about it earlier if you get an email alert every time anything comes up?
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[personal profile] the_old_man 2013-04-29 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)


You are hilarious.
Edited (i missed the tweet) 2013-04-29 23:47 (UTC)
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[personal profile] sockybalboa 2013-04-30 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Wow... you do realize that you basically just told one of your own fans to shove it, right?
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[personal profile] isasock 2013-04-30 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Guess who'll be avoiding anything that has to do with you from now on.
oncest: leave me to die (nosebleeds fuckkkkk)

Re: FYI

[personal profile] oncest 2013-05-01 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
ooooooooooh myyyyyyyyyy gooooooooood i cannot express in words how mind-blowingly pathetic that is woooooooooow
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[personal profile] discosockride 2013-04-29 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you even go here?

I'll be honest with you. I think you're overreacting a lot, especially since not only does it appear that you don't understand how fandom roleplay works, but your own work is a satire.

Calm down.
uluithiad: (samwise the hopeful)

[personal profile] uluithiad 2013-04-29 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
and im just sitting here wondering if you even know how ironic this shit is

it isnt even like your work is original at all, its satire. nobody's making money off of this, and you coming here to bully people out of doing something totally harmless with bullshit copyright claims is really gross, especially when theyre essentially protected by the exact same thing you are.

honestly this is like sonichu all over again
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[personal profile] freshmanleader 2013-04-29 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
They're not claiming ownership, they're not making money, they're not claiming to be you - what the heck? I'm pretty damn sure this falls under Fair Use, especially since your work is an interpretation of something else anyway.

So, basically - what court would take this case? Are you twelve? Because the last time I saw someone threatening to sue someone else like this, it was fanfiction writers getting mad at Pottersues.
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[personal profile] sugarpills 2013-04-30 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed with the person above me.

What law figure in their right mind would waste their time over bullshit like this? It was a roleplay account, for fuck's sake.
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[personal profile] obfuskate 2013-04-30 03:10 pm (UTC)(link)
ok wow

you need to chill

this is no way EVER to react to someone in your fanbase. they aren't claiming the slutcracker as their own. they aren't claiming the images as their own. it's a roleplay account, plain and simple.

you need to take a step back and grow up a little, let alone realizing what is infringement and what isn't.
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[personal profile] trololulz 2013-04-30 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you just missed the entire point of Dreamwidth RP. First off, with the exception of original characters, no one is claiming to own any character or story they roleplay the characters from. It's meant to be a fun hobby. Even ignoring the fact that your work is a burlesque comedy protected under the same law as RPing a character, this isn't hurting your work. Instead, it makes people curious about it and might instead help you by making people want to go see your work. Or it would if you didn't just make an ass of yourself.

Congratulations, you might be one of the few creators crazier than Anne Rice.

[personal profile] soquette 2013-04-30 04:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Just wondering are you trying to RP Regina George

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[personal profile] cantbehavemyself 2013-04-30 05:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, just... wow.

If you seriously think you could take an RP account to court and win against a Fair Use defense, you need to step back and re-evaluate what your idea of infringement is. I have a feeling a judge would certainly take into account that your work is in of itself a derivative of someone else's, too.

I'll not even get into the fact that as a creator you're supposed to appreciate your fans, not treat them like garbage. That doesn't mean bullying someone into deleting their account with threats of lawyers that, realistically, would scoff at a case like this, because unlike you, they'd know better.

Kick over a basket of puppies while you're at it, I doubt that can do much more damage to your PR than a stunt like this does.
justguidelines: (☠ i can be cruel - i don't know why)

All I hear is 'weeeeeeeh i'm a butthurt baby'.

[personal profile] justguidelines 2013-04-30 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
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[personal profile] godofthemachine 2013-04-30 06:20 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, the sad thing is that I love the Nutcracker. I've performed it more than once and I've been interested in its parodies and spin-offs, so to speak, like the Slutcracker.

And now you've killed any desire I have to see it.

Honestly? I would see someone RPing one of your characters as a badge of honor. It means they like your work in some aspect and are raising awareness of it. Even if you don't like it, it's still protected under Fair Use.

So chill.
edle_gestalt: (facepalm)

[personal profile] edle_gestalt 2013-04-30 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, if you'd just said you were uncomfortable and would prefer this RPer stop using the account, I'd figure, OK: you're uptight, probably getting rid of some valuable exposure to people who haven't seen your show, but still perfectly within your right to request they stop.

But you didn't. You said this was infringement, when the RPer is perfectly within their right -- everyone else has mentioned Fair Use, and I'd also like to stress what others have said about your work being a parody of a ballet that was based on a book. So not only did you get rid of the exposure to potential fans, you also lied.

Unless you already have a lawyer lined up and ready to tackle this specific issue (which you might! and that poor lawyer is not going to have a very strong case), you're bluffing.

Rude.
irememberit: (B/)

Do I even need to say anything. Yes I suppose so

[personal profile] irememberit 2013-04-30 06:53 pm (UTC)(link)
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[personal profile] snoochie_boochies 2013-04-30 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)


Being a dick to your fans never ends well.
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[personal profile] licentious 2013-05-01 05:13 pm (UTC)(link)
please tell you have the original template to this.

i need this so badly.
licentious: (Changed my mind. I'm wearing a dress.)

[personal profile] licentious 2013-05-01 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
omg. this is the best. thank you!
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FYI

[personal profile] derangement 2013-04-30 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Just so you know, deleting something off the internet, even from a personal twitter account doesn't actually remove it with 100% efficiency nor does it absolve you from the ramifications of your actions. Case in point: here (http://i.imgur.com/o7aa815.png) is a handful of reactions to your comment.

Here is a sample of the ramifications: here (http://www.plurk.com/p/ij80ug).

Perhaps, as it was 2:55AM on a Sunday night, it may have been wiser to spend your time doing something more productive such as heading to bed in order to soothe your temper tantrum before it flared so wildly.
blue_winged_fire: (fire-breathing)

I'm pretty sure everyone else made my point, but...

[personal profile] blue_winged_fire 2013-04-30 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
You, madame, are really very rude, do you know that? For instance, all you had to do was PM the person and politely ask them to not rp from your parody work. And, assuming that you do not know how to PM, you could have still posted a polite request saying "Eh, I'd rather you not." You didn't.

(PS: In case you don't know, it's as easy as hovering over the name and clicking 'Send Message.')

My second problem is with your rudeness, but also with those who so voraciously decry fan works. Fan works are a form of free advertisement, word of mouth, a way to gather interests and--oh wait, there's a benefit to the fan, too--make friends. By saying that you do not wish fan works to be made of your work (which you are well within your rights to do, no matter how unwise it may be), you are removing any possible free advertising, any way for others to garner interest in your works for free, and any expression of appreciation of your characters. You are not just hindering your fans' creativity (trust me, they'll move on), but your own possible profit.

Speaking of profit, you are only in for the almighty dollar, aren't you? See, I know (personally know) authors who encourage roleplay and fanfiction, even to the point of making themselves available to answer questions from the fans, no matter how trivial the question may be. You, madame, are certainly not interested in your fans. You don't care about whether people like your work, nor if they spread the word, only that they pay for it.

Imagine if E. T. A. Hoffman acted (or had representatives to act, as he is dead) as you do. You would not have had the freedom to make your little parody. You would, as it stands, be in jail for plagiarism.

The tl;dr of it is good job alienating possible fans and a good chunk of the online community. You can be absolutely sure that people will hear about this. Your audiences will suffer. Your wallet will suffer.

Long story short, you were rude and screwed yourself.

Good day.

Re: I'm pretty sure everyone else made my point, but...

[personal profile] therealslutcracker 2013-04-30 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I wrote to the page-owner explaining my position in depth . Frankly this is between our 2 parties and concerns none of the people commenting here. My original post wasn't rude; it was blunt. And if you ever have the pleasure of having to defend your legal entities and intellectual properties, perhaps you will understand my position.

Good day to you also.

Vanessa
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[personal profile] obfuskate 2013-04-30 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
if you wanted it between you and the poster, you shouldn't have posted a public comment. at all.

now, people are going to see that you're defending your (hardly even really your) property in a way most unsound, illogical, and most of all, over something that wasn't even infringing at all.

if you don't want anyone else getting into your business, don't publicize it. it's as simple as that.
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[personal profile] trololulz 2013-04-30 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
You placed this conversation in a public setting, so as of then, it ceased to be just between your two parties.

If your original post was not rude, then this comment certainly is. No one said you did not have the right to defend your intellectual property. We just don't like the way you're choosing to do it. As the person above said, a quick private message would have sufficed. And part of the reason we don't understand your position is because of the amount of misinterpretation involved on your end.

Nobody is claiming to own your work. Nobody is trying to profit monetarily off of it. Fan activities like this one amounts to children playing with dolls. Would it be good etiquette for the makers of GI Joe to tell children "you and your friends can't make up stories for these characters while playing with their action figures because these are my creative property"? Roleplay is play and the stories we make up around these characters we use for it are ultimately just fun stories not meant to infringe on a creator's "legal entities and intellectual properties."
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[personal profile] cantbehavemyself 2013-05-01 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sure you really believed that whole "between 2 parties" excuse when you bragged about your behavior on Twitter, in addition to making this comment on an obviously public forum. And now that you've been outed as a horrible, rude, and ignorant PR disaster, you're getting delete-happy. Hide conversations and delete your journal all you want, you can't stick your fingers in your ears and pretend your actions exist in a vacuum.

Grow the hell up and learn to take responsibility for your own screw-ups. Assuming that none of us have any copyrighted material we are willing to defend just because we're not siding with your repugnant behavior is just a crock. I know 7-year-olds who are more gracious than you've acted.
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[personal profile] atliere 2013-05-01 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
so get a lawyer to chase us down next time instead of 'being blunt' in the public eye.

you could at least do yourself the favor of only sort of looking like an asshole instead of actually being one.
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JUST SO YOU KNOW

[personal profile] edle_gestalt 2013-05-01 02:10 am (UTC)(link)


This is what it says now that you've deleted your account. Chickening out and trying to remove evidence of your bluffing may not be the best idea, if you're concerned about someone else acting as "the real slutcracker." Your name will be up for grabs. I'd hate to see this happen again simply because you no longer wanted to take full responsibility for what you put in public view.
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Re: I'm pretty sure everyone else made my point, but...

[personal profile] shiningbinds 2013-05-02 10:31 am (UTC)(link)
My original post wasn't rude; it was blunt.

Now you just sound like all those other internet tough guys who are "too cool for school."

Also no, your original post was very rude.
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[personal profile] testifier 2013-05-02 09:03 am (UTC)(link)
in addition to everything else that's been said; for someone so anal about stealing other people's ideas you sure have no qualms with parodying a piece of pre-existing media and parading around as if it's entirely 100% original do not steal will lawyer u

jfc it's like sonichu all over again